Lightroom 1.4: Minor Update

Update April 11th, 2008
Lightroom 1.4.1 has now been released to address the problems discussed below. Download links are here.

Yikes, it seems that 1.4 has a bug: the “time taken” is set to midnight in copies of the file that are exported. The Lightroom database and the original files maintain the correct time, but when you export a copy (e.g. to upload somewhere), the time is reset to midnight.

This is most unfortunate. I don't know whether I can work around it in the plugins. Until this is resolved, I'd recommend staying with 1.3 unless the benifits of 1.4 are worth it for you.

Drat.

For those wishing to move back to 1.3.1, here are the links: Windows · Mac

Adobe has just released a very minor upgrade to Lightroom, version 1.4, available for free download here. This comes about four months after Lightroom 1.3 and its support for export plugins was released.

Full details are in the Lightroom 1.4 ReadMe, but in short this upgrade adds support for some new cameras, and fixes a few bugs (but unfortunately, not the “FormatMessageW failed” uploading bug some Windows users of plugins have seen).

Added Cameras

Canon:EOS 450D, Digital Rebel Xsi, EOS Kiss X2
Fujifilm:S100FS
Nikon:D60
Olympus:    SP-570 UZ
Pentax:K20D, K200D
Sony:A200, A300, A350

Bug Fixes

The big fix is enhanced compatibility for printing on OS X 10.5 (Leopard). The “Color Noise” setting is now enabled even when you switch to grayscale, and there is some kind of fix related to the “Calibrate” panel in the Develop module (whatever that is).

My Plugins

The update reveals a boo-boo in my plugins – I neglected to indicate “or later” when specifying that they were designed for Lightroom 1.3 – so if you upgrade to Lightroom 1.4, you'll need to pull a new version of the plugin from the appropriate page:

Lightroom 1.4 doesn't really show very much progress, especially for so much time having passed since 1.3 came out. It might lead one to suppose that they've been busy with other things, perhaps the “new and improved versions of Lightroom” that Lightroom product manager Tom Hogarty wrote about in January. This minor update doesn't even hint at what I'm sure is going to turn out to be a great and exciting year for users of Lightroom. 😉


All 18 comments so far, oldest first...

Lightroom has made such a huge impact on my photography and the way I work with my photos. I can’t wait to see the next real update of the software. There is so much that it does easily and quickly. I hope they don’t lose that basic simplicity while adding great features like dodging, burning, better noise reduction, effects, etc.

— comment by Jon on March 14th, 2008 at 1:33pm JST (16 years ago) comment permalink

Jeff- one should not minimize the importance of correcting the printing issues with a dot upgrade. Thanks to Adobe for not waiting until v2.0!

–Dave

I don’t mean to minimize their importance, but the changes are “minor” in the sense that they apply to relatively few people. If you have one of the cameras now supported, did a lot of grayscale work, or were one of the ones who had printing issues on Leopard, this is an update of monumental proportions. —Jeffrey

— comment by Dave B on March 14th, 2008 at 10:28pm JST (16 years ago) comment permalink

Jeffrey, Export is fine timewise on my Mac 10.4.11.

Sean.

You’re likely looking at the XMP data, which indeed maintains the proper date. The EXIF, unfortunately, is wrong, even on 10.4.11 (which I’m also running). If you’re really getting good times in your JPG EXIF, that’d be worth investigating…. —Jeffrey

— comment by Sean McCormack on March 15th, 2008 at 10:55am JST (16 years ago) comment permalink

Printing is still broken with the HP 8250 driver. 🙁

— comment by Brad Ackerman on March 16th, 2008 at 1:59am JST (16 years ago) comment permalink

Hey… your plugin for flickr has absolutely made my life so much easier.

I have upgraded to 1.4 and upload to Flickr using your plugin. And when I check out the EXIF data on Flickr itself, it all seems kosher over here…..

— comment by Chris on March 16th, 2008 at 6:13pm JST (16 years ago) comment permalink

Version 1.4 has been taken offline now due to too many issues: http://lightroom-news.com/2008/03/16/adobe-yanks-lightroom-14-camera-raw-44/

— comment by Age Bosma on March 17th, 2008 at 10:02pm JST (16 years ago) comment permalink

Is there a flickr plugin for PSCS3?

I don’t know. I don’t use either PSCS3 or Flickr…. —Jeffrey

— comment by Paul on March 18th, 2008 at 7:26am JST (16 years ago) comment permalink

Hi, I am wondering if there is a bug in the plugin or if I am doing something wrong. I made changes to the white balance of an image. When I exported it the image on Picasa doesn’t have the adjustment. Any thoughts?

Two ideas… one is that you exported “Original” rather than “JPG”.

The other is that it does have the adjustment, but that you just can’t tell because of color-management issues (e.g. because you’re using IE or Fireforx or another non-color-managed browser). Try viewing in Safari to see whether it looks better there. —Jeffrey

— comment by Joe Cotellese on March 27th, 2008 at 10:20am JST (16 years ago) comment permalink

Great work this plugin ! I love it and saves a lot of trouble …

I have one question though:
I work a lot with keywords. I would love an option that enables the output of the whole keyword hierarchy (e.g. if a image is tagged with “flower”, I also want to have the parent “plant” exported), including synonyms. The whole point of keyword hierarchies is, that one very specific term captures all the more generic parents. However, one might not search (e.g. on Zenfolio) for this specific term rather for one of the more general terms.

What do you think ? Any chance this can be implemented ?
Best regards and again, many thanks for your plugin!
Markus

I’m not a big user of keywords, so these kinds of suggestions are helpful (since I’d never pay attention to the subject on my own). But isn’t this already what the plugins do? I’m working on new plugins for 2.0, so if it’s not already doing that, I can address it then…. —Jeffrey

— comment by Markus on April 7th, 2008 at 12:58am JST (15 years, 11 months ago) comment permalink

Hi Jeffrey

Using the standard export from Lightroom optionally writes out the hierarchy (with the option “write Keywords as Lightroom Hierarchy” enabled).

You have the same option available in your plugin. However, enabling and disabling this option does not change anything. It always writes out “just” the keywords without the hierarchy.

I guess it is a rather simple bug and a wrong call to the API, rather than a not implemented feature, since Lightroom already offers this feature. It would be great if you can roll out a bug fix release, given it is just a wrong call of the API 😉

Many thanks,
Markus

I figured using this option only exports the parents of a keyword when the keyword is ambiguous, e.g.
“flower” under “plants” AND under say “gifts”. In this case the export would be “flower > gifts” for example.

Indeed, it’s just a wrong call to the API, but unfortunately, the correct call won’t be available until Lightroom 2.0 comes out, so now there’s an actual basis for my initial plan to wait until then 🙂 —Jeffrey

— comment by Markus on April 7th, 2008 at 6:12pm JST (15 years, 11 months ago) comment permalink

Hi Jeffrey

Why do you wanna wait many MONTHs to make this simple bugfix change happen ?

Uh, because (as I said) the fix won’t be possible until Lightroom 2.0 comes out, which I assume is a timespan measured in months. —Jeffrey

These are hundreds/thousands of pics with missing keyword hierarchies 🙁

Do you have the source code available somewhere on google code or sourceforge ?
Is it an OpenSource project ? If not, it would be great if you move towards that: collaborative efforts are great if there are people eager to improve things.

— comment by Markus on April 8th, 2008 at 12:08am JST (15 years, 11 months ago) comment permalink

Ahhh, sorry Jeffrey, I thought the wrong call was made from your plugin, but I assume what is correct is that actual API has a bug. Then obviously, only an update of Lightroom would help 😉

Thanks for that, best regards!

— comment by Markus on April 9th, 2008 at 9:14pm JST (15 years, 11 months ago) comment permalink

Just to let you know:
Unfortunately the todays update to 1.4.1 has not fixed the issue 🙁
Best, M

1.4.1 is not intended to fix any and all bugs and deficiencies that people may feel that Lightroom has; it’s intended to fix the problems introduced when 1.4.0 was released, which itself was intended to be very limited in addressing a few specific bugs and adding support for some new cameras. There are still bugs and areas where I and everyone wishes that Lightroom performed differently (the “FormatW” upload error being near the top of the list for many), but those have not been addressed. —Jeffrey

— comment by Markus on April 11th, 2008 at 7:52pm JST (15 years, 11 months ago) comment permalink

Hey Jeffrey – just a quick question if I may after being advised to visit and post here from a user on the Lightroom forums.

I use your excellent Zenfolio plug-in for Lightroom, but am considering moving over to Photium as my web gallery as they allow people to sell images in GBP, whereas Zenfolio only permit USD pricing – no good for me eh! (no offence to my US friends of course)

So, just wondering if you have any plans to write a Lightroom plug-in for uploading images directly to Photium…?

Any news / opinion / thought …?

Ta
John

I’ve never heard of them, but that doesn’t mean too much. Once LR 2.0 comes out I’ll be adding new plugins, so if the Photium people want to contact me then about creating an export plugin for their service, we’ll see how it goes…. —Jeffrey

— comment by John on April 14th, 2008 at 3:21am JST (15 years, 11 months ago) comment permalink

Hello Jeffrey! First off, thank you so very very much for creating these plugins, they are so very helpful! I would love to install the piglets too, but after installing them into the plugin folder, when trying call up the piglet manager, I get this message: No piglets found in this plugins folder. But they’re in there, for sure. I copied them into the /modules folder into the plugin folder, without the piglet folder. What am I doing wrong?

— comment by Karin Nelson on May 1st, 2008 at 9:44am JST (15 years, 11 months ago) comment permalink

Dear Jeffrey,
superb yes, the new Lightroom version DOES export hierarchical keywords 🙂
That rocks.
Best regards, Markus

— comment by Markus on May 11th, 2008 at 4:53am JST (15 years, 10 months ago) comment permalink

Great plugin, mister! I use it on both 1.4 and 2.0 version of LR, and it has worked flawlessly until the Smugmug crash yesterday. Now, I can’t get it to acknowledge any of the galleries to which I want to post. This happens on both home computers, so I think something has changed over at Smugmug, or maybe they aren’t yet up to full speed. Note, however, that there is also the very real possibility of user error, in which I excel in computer matters.
Thanks for the great plugin, incidentally.

Rocky

— comment by Rocky on July 22nd, 2008 at 7:13am JST (15 years, 8 months ago) comment permalink

Just upgraded to Lightroom 3 – the Flickr plugin no longer works. Is there a way around this problem?

yes —Jeffrey

— comment by Ryan on June 10th, 2010 at 4:37am JST (13 years, 9 months ago) comment permalink
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