{"id":1501,"date":"2010-04-25T12:30:01","date_gmt":"2010-04-25T03:30:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/2010-04-25\/1501"},"modified":"2010-04-25T12:30:01","modified_gmt":"2010-04-25T03:30:01","slug":"freaky-wavy-lines-quiz-answer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/2010-04-25\/1501","title":{"rendered":"Freaky Wavy Lines Quiz Answer"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n<div class='resize_warning' id='arw1501'>\n<b>NOTE<\/b>: Images with an <img class='raw' width='19' height='18' src='\/i\/s\/red_zoomup.gif'\/> icon next to them have been artificially shrunk to better fit your screen; click the icon to restore them, in place, to their regular size.\n<\/div>\n\n\n<div class='ic'><a name=\"031110\" href=\"\/blog\/2010-04-18\/1496\"\n><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/i\/JF7_031110_sm.jpg\" width=\"690\" height=\"459\"\nalt=\"Kyoto, Japan -- Copyright 2010 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\nid=\"i031110\"\ntitle=\"Kyoto, Japan -- Copyright 2010 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\/><\/a>\n<br\/><span class=\"camera-info robots-nocontent\">Nikon D700 + Sigma &#8220;Bigma&#8221; 50-500mm OS @ 500 mm &mdash; <sup>1<\/sup><big>\/<\/big>125 sec, <span class='f'>f<\/span>\/6.3, ISO 6400 &mdash;\n<a href=\"\/imageinfo.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fregex.info%2Fi%2FJF7_031110.jpg\">map &amp; image data<\/a> &mdash; <a href=\"\/blog\/proximity\/i\/JF7_031110.jpg\">nearby photos<\/a><\/span>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>I posted the picture above, of <span class='nobr'>a spotlight<\/span> on <span class='nobr'>a rock<\/span> garden in Kyoto, in\nmy &#8221;<a href=\"\/blog\/2010-04-18\/1496\"\nclass='pt'>Amorphous Wavy Lines Quiz<\/a>&#8221; post last week, asking whether\nanyone knew the reason for the wavy lines one sees at full resolution:<\/p>\n\n<div class='ic'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/i\/JF7_031110c_sm.jpg\" width=\"690\" height=\"460\"\nalt=\"Full-Resolution Crop of one of many sections of these wavy-line tracks -- Kyoto, Japan -- Copyright 2010 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\nid=\"i031110c\"\ntitle=\"Full-Resolution Crop of one of many sections of these wavy-line tracks -- Kyoto, Japan -- Copyright 2010 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\/>\n<br\/><span class='caption'>Full-Resolution Crop<\/span>\n<br\/>of one of many sections of these wavy-line tracks\n<\/div>\n\n<p>The answer differs depending on how honest you are with yourself. <span class='nobr'>In my case<\/span>, the true answer is<\/p>\n\n<p style='margin-left:3em'>&#8220;<b><span class='nobr'>I don't<\/span> know.<\/b>&#8221;<\/p>\n\n<p>Being a bit less honest with myself, I'll say<\/p>\n\n<p style='margin-left:3em'>&#8220;<b>Likely some kind of diffraction, possibly related to the\n&#8220;discrete points&#8221; nature of the image sensor, but I'm not sure<\/b>&#8221;<\/p>\n\n<p>But if I want to completely fool myself into thinking <span class='nobr'>I understand<\/span>\nwhat's going on here, I'll just say:<\/p>\n\n<p style='margin-left:3em'>&#8220;<b>It's caused by grass in the foreground.<\/b>&#8221;<\/p>\n\n<p>It <i>is<\/i> caused by the grass in the foreground &mdash; that's true\n&mdash; but <span class='nobr'>I don't<\/span> understand <i>why<\/i> the grass in the foreground has\nthis effect in this situation.<\/p>\n\n<p style='margin-top:40px'>In this wider, 1\/15th second ISO 12,800 shot, you can see <span class='nobr'>a strip<\/span> of grass in the foreground...<\/p>\n\n<div class='ic'><a name=\"031109\" href=\"\/i\/JF7_031109.jpg\"\n><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/i\/JF7_031109_sm.jpg\" width=\"690\" height=\"459\"\nalt=\"Restaurant Rock Garden at Night -- Kyoto, Japan -- Copyright 2010 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\nid=\"i031109\"\ntitle=\"Restaurant Rock Garden at Night -- Kyoto, Japan -- Copyright 2010 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\/><\/a>\n<br\/><span class=\"camera-info robots-nocontent\">Nikon D700 + Sigma &#8220;Bigma&#8221; 50-500mm OS @ 50 mm &mdash; <sup>1<\/sup><big>\/<\/big>15 sec, <span class='f'>f<\/span>\/6.3, ISO 12800 &mdash;\n<a href=\"\/imageinfo.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fregex.info%2Fi%2FJF7_031109.jpg\">map &amp; image data<\/a> &mdash; <a href=\"\/blog\/proximity\/i\/JF7_031109.jpg\">nearby photos<\/a><\/span>\n<br\/><span class='caption'>Restaurant Rock Garden at Night<\/span>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>I've seen this effect a few times. <span class='nobr'>One I recall<\/span> is from shooting\nAnthony's cousins <a href=\"\/blog\/2009-08-27\/1300\">Grace\nand Luke in <span class='nobr'>a boat<\/span><\/a> at my folks' place. <span class='nobr'>The many layers<\/span> of cattails and\ntrees sometimes made for this freaky (diffraction?) effect:<\/p>\n\n<div class='ic tight'><a name=\"020708\" href=\"\/i\/JF7_020708.jpg\"\n><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/i\/JF7_020708_sm.jpg\" width=\"690\" height=\"459\"\nalt=\"Cattail and a good dose of freakiness -- Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\nid=\"i020708\"\ntitle=\"Cattail and a good dose of freakiness -- Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\/><\/a>\n<br\/><span class=\"camera-info robots-nocontent\">Nikon D700 + Nikkor 70-200mm f\/2.8 @ 200 mm &mdash; <sup>1<\/sup><big>\/<\/big>1000 sec, <span class='f'>f<\/span>\/2.8, ISO 200 &mdash;\n<a href=\"\/imageinfo.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fregex.info%2Fi%2FJF7_020708.jpg\">map &amp; image data<\/a> &mdash; <a href=\"\/blog\/proximity\/i\/JF7_020708.jpg\">nearby photos<\/a><\/span>\n<br\/><span class='caption'>Cattail<\/span>\n<br\/>and a good dose of freakiness\n<\/div>\n\n<div class='ic tight'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/i\/JF7_020708c_sm.jpg\" width=\"690\" height=\"460\"\nalt=\"Full-Resolution Crop ( My brother has 6&amp;frac12; fingers on each hand, not 9&amp;frac34; ) -- Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\nid=\"i020708c\"\ntitle=\"Full-Resolution Crop ( My brother has 6&amp;frac12; fingers on each hand, not 9&amp;frac34; ) -- Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\/>\n<br\/><span class='caption'>Full-Resolution Crop<\/span>\n<br\/><span class='subtle'>( My brother has 6&frac12; fingers on each hand, not 9&frac34; )<\/span>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>In the quiz, the focus was behind the effect, but in this case, it's in front.<\/p>\n\n<p>Here's another example...<\/p>\n\n<div class='ic tight'><a name=\"020709\" href=\"\/i\/JF7_020709.jpg\"\n><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/i\/JF7_020709_sm.jpg\" width=\"690\" height=\"459\"\nalt=\"looks like a Time-Travel Portal is in the process of opening -- Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\nid=\"i020709\"\ntitle=\"looks like a Time-Travel Portal is in the process of opening -- Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\/><\/a>\n<br\/><span class=\"camera-info robots-nocontent\">Nikon D700 + Nikkor 70-200mm f\/2.8 @ 200 mm &mdash; <sup>1<\/sup><big>\/<\/big>1250 sec, <span class='f'>f<\/span>\/2.8, ISO 200 &mdash;\n<a href=\"\/imageinfo.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fregex.info%2Fi%2FJF7_020709.jpg\">map &amp; image data<\/a> &mdash; <a href=\"\/blog\/proximity\/i\/JF7_020709.jpg\">nearby photos<\/a><\/span>\n<br\/>looks like a\n<br\/><span class='caption'>Time-Travel Portal<\/span>\n<br\/>is in the process of opening\n<\/div>\n\n<div class='ic'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/i\/JF7_020709c_sm.jpg\" width=\"690\" height=\"460\"\nalt=\"Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\nid=\"i020709c\"\ntitle=\"Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\/>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>Yet, <span class='nobr'>I take pictures<\/span> in seemingly-similar situations all the time, and\nnormally don't experience any of these effects....<\/p>\n\n<div class='ic'><a name=\"021267\" href=\"\/i\/JF7_021267.jpg\"\n><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/i\/JF7_021267_sm.jpg\" width=\"690\" height=\"459\"\nalt=\"&amp;#8220;No Time Travel For You&amp;#8221; -- Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\nid=\"i021267\"\ntitle=\"&amp;#8220;No Time Travel For You&amp;#8221; -- Rootstown, Ohio, USA -- Copyright 2009 Jeffrey Friedl, https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/\"\/><\/a>\n<br\/><span class=\"camera-info robots-nocontent\">Nikon D700 + Nikkor 24-70mm f\/2.8 @ 48 mm &mdash; <sup>1<\/sup><big>\/<\/big>320 sec, <span class='f'>f<\/span>\/4.5, ISO 200 &mdash;\n<a href=\"\/imageinfo.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fregex.info%2Fi%2FJF7_021267.jpg\">map &amp; image data<\/a> &mdash; <a href=\"\/blog\/proximity\/i\/JF7_021267.jpg\">nearby photos<\/a><\/span>\n<br\/><span class='caption'>&#8220;No Time Travel For You&#8221;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>So if there are any physicists in the house who can explain this, <span class='nobr'>I'd love to<\/span> understand it, at least enough to be able to predict whether it\nwill\/won't happen in <span class='nobr'>a given<\/span> situation.<\/p>\n\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I posted the picture above, of a spotlight on a rock garden in Kyoto, in my \"Amorphous Wavy Lines Quiz\" post last week, asking whether anyone knew the reason for the wavy lines one sees at full resolution:<\/p> <p>The answer differs depending on how honest you are with yourself. In my case, the true answer is<\/p> <p style='margin-left:3em'>\"<b>I don't know.<\/b>\"<\/p> <p>Being a bit less honest with myself, I'll say<\/p> <p style='margin-left:3em'>\"<b>Likely some kind of diffraction, possibly related to the \"discrete points\" nature of the image sensor, but I'm not sure<\/b>\"<\/p> <p>But if I want to completely fool myself into thinking [...]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1501"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1501"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1501\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1501"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1501"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/regex.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1501"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}