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	<title>Comments on: Jeffrey’s “Focal-length Sort” Lightroom Plugin</title>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-39778</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see. What a pity. How often can you update the database? My new little cam is apparently not in it yet (FujiFilm FinePix JZ300). When I run &quot;Calculate focal length sort&quot; on it, the FocalLength in 35mm changes from &quot;No value&quot; to &quot;?&quot;, I take that&#039;s because there is no entry for it in the database.
I asked a similar question (the 35mm value is computed) on Phil Harvey&#039;s exiftool forum and Phil replied:

The computation is based on the FocalPlaneX/YResolution tags unless the FocalLengthIn35mmFormat tag exists already in which case it is used.  See the Composite tag name documentation for a list of tags used in the calculation.  (Also look up the tags used in calculating ScaleFactor35efl.   Note that some of these are used only if others are not available.)

Maybe one needs a LR Plugin Interface for exiftool :-)

Thanks, Josh

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;Send me a sample shot (of a blank wall, or better yet, something interesting :-) ) and I&#039;ll add it to the database. I use ExifTool in a number of my plugins, but limitations in Lightroom and in Windows make it somewhat of a heavy hammer.  Macs come with Perl installed, but Windows doesn&#039;t and never will, so I have to include a full Perl run-time environment in the plugin, which is both fragile and bloating.  And frankly, it&#039;s not all that popular of a plugin, so I&#039;m reticent to spend much time on it when time spent elsewhere can benefit many. &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see. What a pity. How often can you update the database? My new little cam is apparently not in it yet (FujiFilm FinePix JZ300). When I run &#8220;Calculate focal length sort&#8221; on it, the FocalLength in 35mm changes from &#8220;No value&#8221; to &#8220;?&#8221;, I take that&#8217;s because there is no entry for it in the database.<br />
I asked a similar question (the 35mm value is computed) on Phil Harvey&#8217;s exiftool forum and Phil replied:</p>
<p>The computation is based on the FocalPlaneX/YResolution tags unless the FocalLengthIn35mmFormat tag exists already in which case it is used.  See the Composite tag name documentation for a list of tags used in the calculation.  (Also look up the tags used in calculating ScaleFactor35efl.   Note that some of these are used only if others are not available.)</p>
<p>Maybe one needs a LR Plugin Interface for exiftool <img src='http://regex.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks, Josh</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>Send me a sample shot (of a blank wall, or better yet, something interesting <img src='http://regex.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and I&#8217;ll add it to the database. I use ExifTool in a number of my plugins, but limitations in Lightroom and in Windows make it somewhat of a heavy hammer.  Macs come with Perl installed, but Windows doesn&#8217;t and never will, so I have to include a full Perl run-time environment in the plugin, which is both fragile and bloating.  And frankly, it&#8217;s not all that popular of a plugin, so I&#8217;m reticent to spend much time on it when time spent elsewhere can benefit many. &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-39749</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey, this issue is solved under LR 3, thanks.

Just out of curiosity: are you using the FocalLengthIn35mm EXIF variable in any way? How do you compute the value, if not? Would it be possible to write back the computed value into the metadata of the image? I am messing with a couple of small cameras that do not provide the FocalLengthIn35mm and need to massage them using exiftool. Amazingly, it is possible to at least display that variable (using your metadata config tool: &#039;com.adobe.focalLength35mm&#039;), but it is not possible to sort on it or put it in a smart collection. I was wondering if your variable is related to it and how. And again, it would be very convenient if your plugin could write back the computed value into the image (or at least into the FocalLengthIn35mm variable in the database).

-- Josh

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;Lightroom doesn&#039;t give access to the FocalLengthIn35mm even if the image has it, so the plugin doesn&#039;t use it.  I compute it based upon the camera make/model and a large database of sensor sizes. It would be much better if I could use FocalLengthIn35mm directly, because that would take into account camera setups that don&#039;t use the full sensor (e.g. the high-speed crop in some Nikons).   The plugin keeps the data in its &lt;b&gt;info.regex.lightroom.focallengthsort.FL35&lt;/b&gt; field... I&#039;ve updated my &lt;a href=&#039;http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/metadata-presets&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;metadata-presets&lt;/a&gt; plugin to work with it... but I don&#039;t know of any way to access it via a smart collection or the like. &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey, this issue is solved under LR 3, thanks.</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity: are you using the FocalLengthIn35mm EXIF variable in any way? How do you compute the value, if not? Would it be possible to write back the computed value into the metadata of the image? I am messing with a couple of small cameras that do not provide the FocalLengthIn35mm and need to massage them using exiftool. Amazingly, it is possible to at least display that variable (using your metadata config tool: &#8216;com.adobe.focalLength35mm&#8217;), but it is not possible to sort on it or put it in a smart collection. I was wondering if your variable is related to it and how. And again, it would be very convenient if your plugin could write back the computed value into the image (or at least into the FocalLengthIn35mm variable in the database).</p>
<p>&#8211; Josh</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>Lightroom doesn&#8217;t give access to the FocalLengthIn35mm even if the image has it, so the plugin doesn&#8217;t use it.  I compute it based upon the camera make/model and a large database of sensor sizes. It would be much better if I could use FocalLengthIn35mm directly, because that would take into account camera setups that don&#8217;t use the full sensor (e.g. the high-speed crop in some Nikons).   The plugin keeps the data in its <b>info.regex.lightroom.focallengthsort.FL35</b> field&#8230; I&#8217;ve updated my <a href='http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/metadata-presets' rel="nofollow">metadata-presets</a> plugin to work with it&#8230; but I don&#8217;t know of any way to access it via a smart collection or the like. &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-38409</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey,

I use this plug-in and discovered that in some cases it displays a question mark (?)  if the image does not have the FocalLengthIn35mmFormat label defined. Upon clicking on the ? line, the images that do not have that label are displayed (filtered). This is working as expected.

However in some cases there another entry &quot;No Value&quot; which is always at the bottom of the. Upon clicking that entry the line is highlighted but the filter is not engaged, the same set of pictures is displayed. Thus, I can not determine what metadata tag is involved.

This is not a big deal, but it is in all likelihood a bug that you might want to eliminate at some point.

Regards, Josh

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;I&#039;m guessing that it&#039;s a bug in LR2. Plugin custom metadata can be frustratingly iffy in LR2&#039;s filter (try restarting LR, and it might work). Try it again in the real LR3 when it comes out and it should all work fine. &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey,</p>
<p>I use this plug-in and discovered that in some cases it displays a question mark (?)  if the image does not have the FocalLengthIn35mmFormat label defined. Upon clicking on the ? line, the images that do not have that label are displayed (filtered). This is working as expected.</p>
<p>However in some cases there another entry &#8220;No Value&#8221; which is always at the bottom of the. Upon clicking that entry the line is highlighted but the filter is not engaged, the same set of pictures is displayed. Thus, I can not determine what metadata tag is involved.</p>
<p>This is not a big deal, but it is in all likelihood a bug that you might want to eliminate at some point.</p>
<p>Regards, Josh</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>I&#8217;m guessing that it&#8217;s a bug in LR2. Plugin custom metadata can be frustratingly iffy in LR2&#8242;s filter (try restarting LR, and it might work). Try it again in the real LR3 when it comes out and it should all work fine. &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-38144</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So happy to find this. Is there a way to print out the focal length breakdown that shows in the Library Filter?

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;Take a screenshot? :-)  &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So happy to find this. Is there a way to print out the focal length breakdown that shows in the Library Filter?</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>Take a screenshot? <img src='http://regex.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: L.M.A. van der Linden</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-37463</link>
		<dc:creator>L.M.A. van der Linden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeffrey,

This plugin is more than welcome. Works like a charm!

Thanx, Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeffrey,</p>
<p>This plugin is more than welcome. Works like a charm!</p>
<p>Thanx, Martin</p>
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		<title>By: JasonP</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-37398</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be reading my mind...  just last weekend I was thinking of a way to convert crop to effective focal length. Thanks for yet another useful plugin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be reading my mind&#8230;  just last weekend I was thinking of a way to convert crop to effective focal length. Thanks for yet another useful plugin!</p>
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		<title>By: Herve</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-37377</link>
		<dc:creator>Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeffrey
I forgot to mention :
do you think possible to modify the smart collection menu so we can sort photos by range of focals (between xx and yy)
For the moment we can only use &quot;contains&quot; etc....which, if I write &quot;17&quot;, selects 17mm AND 170mm , 
Logical, but not very useful

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;No, sorry, LR doesn&#039;t allow for it. &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeffrey<br />
I forgot to mention :<br />
do you think possible to modify the smart collection menu so we can sort photos by range of focals (between xx and yy)<br />
For the moment we can only use &#8220;contains&#8221; etc&#8230;.which, if I write &#8220;17&#8243;, selects 17mm AND 170mm ,<br />
Logical, but not very useful</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>No, sorry, LR doesn&#8217;t allow for it. &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: Herve</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-37376</link>
		<dc:creator>Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done and thank you
This function is really missing in LR
It will now be possible to have standard  presets of vignetting and chromatic aberrration by range of focal and aperture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done and thank you<br />
This function is really missing in LR<br />
It will now be possible to have standard  presets of vignetting and chromatic aberrration by range of focal and aperture</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-37375</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work. Again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work. Again.</p>
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		<title>By: fotografieBerliner</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/focal-length-sort#comment-37372</link>
		<dc:creator>fotografieBerliner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeffrey,
you are really the best! You programmed this plugin that fast I can&#039;t believe it! This is exactly what we had in Lightroom 1 and I longed for it. Manymany thanks from Berlin
Sven
I know that some people also waited for this feature in LR, so I&#039;m gonna spread it over the forums :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeffrey,<br />
you are really the best! You programmed this plugin that fast I can&#8217;t believe it! This is exactly what we had in Lightroom 1 and I longed for it. Manymany thanks from Berlin<br />
Sven<br />
I know that some people also waited for this feature in LR, so I&#8217;m gonna spread it over the forums <img src='http://regex.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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