Comments on: The Amazing Marketing Power of Scott Kelby http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753 Not a photo blog. A personal blog with photos. Wed, 23 May 2012 20:38:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Sherry Molina http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-44731 Sherry Molina Mon, 05 Dec 2011 13:50:13 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-44731 This is really big, i've always admired Scott Kelby, I guess people nowadays will do anything for money. Thanks to you now we know that we need to be cautious next time and not waste our money on useless things. Scott Kelby's integrity is tarnished, people really do abuse their fame. Your plugins are great by the way and are very helpful. Keep it up! This is really big, i’ve always admired Scott Kelby, I guess people nowadays will do anything for money. Thanks to you now we know that we need to be cautious next time and not waste our money on useless things. Scott Kelby’s integrity is tarnished, people really do abuse their fame. Your plugins are great by the way and are very helpful. Keep it up!

]]> By: JD http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-44061 JD Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:36:49 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-44061 I am in the New Haven, CT USA area. Came upon this post in a round about way. I am a amateur and realtively new to DSLR. Only join NAPP last May. I have always wondered about the Cult of Personality in all the Kelby stuff. Another good example of the way they do the Spin is yesterdays The Gird (Sept 15, 2011). I guess your blog post does not surprise me at all. As a newbie I plan to try your plugins in time. So did you see that the OnOne Suite is now stand alone? Truth in advertising.? I am in the New Haven, CT USA area. Came upon this post in a round about way. I am a amateur and realtively new to DSLR. Only join NAPP last May. I have always wondered about the Cult of Personality in all the Kelby stuff. Another good example of the way they do the Spin is yesterdays The Gird (Sept 15, 2011). I guess your blog post does not surprise me at all. As a newbie I plan to try your plugins in time. So did you see that the OnOne Suite is now stand alone? Truth in advertising.?

]]> By: musc http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43613 musc Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:14:00 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43613 1000 x thanks for this valuable artcle + i did learn a lot here about how Lr and PS working together (layer edite) :) 1000 x thanks for this valuable artcle

+ i did learn a lot here about how Lr and PS working together (layer edite)

:)

]]> By: JP http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43499 JP Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:03:16 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43499 Interesting - I thought I was alone in my thoughts on the Kelby group & products, glad to see I did have a clue and 'dumped my kool-aid' a while ago. Interesting – I thought I was alone in my thoughts on the Kelby group & products, glad to see I did have a clue and ‘dumped my kool-aid’ a while ago.

]]> By: eli http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43189 eli Fri, 27 May 2011 18:07:24 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43189 quote “My trust in him evaporated in an instant.” — Pretty much sums up my thoughts. Anything on his blog from now on I will take with a huge grain of salt. unquote +1 my admiration shattered into pieces. quote
“My trust in him evaporated in an instant.” — Pretty much sums up my thoughts. Anything on his blog from now on I will take with a huge grain of salt.
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my admiration shattered into pieces.

]]> By: Andrew D Rodney http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43005 Andrew D Rodney Tue, 10 May 2011 17:44:41 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43005 Interesting, both Scott and Matt’s blogs no longer have ad banners for the OnOne product. You suppose they got a clue how poor this looked, hyping a product then placing ad banners on the same blog page? Maybe the little bit of heat generated here and elsewhere on the web got these guys to think about what they say and do. Or they just moved the goal posts over to the Mpix gang? Interesting, both Scott and Matt’s blogs no longer have ad banners for the OnOne product. You suppose they got a clue how poor this looked, hyping a product then placing ad banners on the same blog page? Maybe the little bit of heat generated here and elsewhere on the web got these guys to think about what they say and do. Or they just moved the goal posts over to the Mpix gang?

]]> By: Chan http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43002 Chan Tue, 10 May 2011 14:40:43 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-43002 Today I just received an email from Mpix, advertising onOne Layer product as Lightroom "plug-in", and all that hype. No doubt this was due to Kelby's marketing influence, as he is one of Mpix ambassador. But coming from my favorite printing company.. its just sad. :( <span class='jfriedl'>I'm not an Mpix customer, but received it as well for some reason. —Jeffrey</span> Today I just received an email from Mpix, advertising onOne Layer product as Lightroom “plug-in”, and all that hype. No doubt this was due to Kelby’s marketing influence, as he is one of Mpix ambassador. But coming from my favorite printing company.. its just sad. :(

I’m not an Mpix customer, but received it as well for some reason. —Jeffrey

]]> By: Paige http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-42987 Paige Mon, 09 May 2011 14:35:58 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-42987 This certainly has been an interesting conversation. I have disliked Kelby's books on Photoshop Elements and Lightroom to the point where I decided I would never buy another one of his books. I have discussed this in several Lightroom forums, stating that I think his coverage of the Elements Organizer and Lightroom Library Module was misleading, off target, and just plain bad advice. I stopped reading Kelby's blog for the same reason. And now, in this thread, I learn just another reason to avoid Kelby products. This certainly has been an interesting conversation. I have disliked Kelby’s books on Photoshop Elements and Lightroom to the point where I decided I would never buy another one of his books. I have discussed this in several Lightroom forums, stating that I think his coverage of the Elements Organizer and Lightroom Library Module was misleading, off target, and just plain bad advice.

I stopped reading Kelby’s blog for the same reason.

And now, in this thread, I learn just another reason to avoid Kelby products.

]]> By: Andrew D Rodney http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-42896 Andrew D Rodney Tue, 03 May 2011 14:01:34 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-42896 I agree with Steve, the issue is the Kelby uber hype of this product all while taking in revenue from banner ads, then getting pissy with anyone who questions this hype. It went viral in the NAPP forums too, with most people agreeing it was hype. Then the NAPP rank and file (RC and Dave Cross) came in and did what you see Scott and Matt doing, being dismissive with anyone who doesn’t agree with them. Got me banned from NAPP (saving me from stupidly paying $99 next June). These guys just don’t get it. They have to be right and if anyone disagrees, instead of discussing it, they become disagreeable and censor (Scott locked his blog comments for that day he hyped OnOne)! Then he spent like 20 minutes defending all this on his Web TV show, The Grid (http://kelbytv.com/thegrid/2011/04/26/the-grid-episode-08/). What a total waste of time. <span class='jfriedl'>Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that. Truly he's a marketing genius. I posted a followup discussing the video <a href='http://regex.info/blog/2011-05-04/1761' rel="nofollow">here</a>. —Jeffrey</span> I agree with Steve, the issue is the Kelby uber hype of this product all while taking in revenue from banner ads, then getting pissy with anyone who questions this hype. It went viral in the NAPP forums too, with most people agreeing it was hype. Then the NAPP rank and file (RC and Dave Cross) came in and did what you see Scott and Matt doing, being dismissive with anyone who doesn’t agree with them. Got me banned from NAPP (saving me from stupidly paying $99 next June). These guys just don’t get it. They have to be right and if anyone disagrees, instead of discussing it, they become disagreeable and censor (Scott locked his blog comments for that day he hyped OnOne)! Then he spent like 20 minutes defending all this on his Web TV show, The Grid (http://kelbytv.com/thegrid/2011/04/26/the-grid-episode-08/). What a total waste of time.

Thanks for the link, I hadn’t seen that. Truly he’s a marketing genius. I posted a followup discussing the video here. —Jeffrey

]]> By: Steve Dominecki http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-42887 Steve Dominecki Mon, 02 May 2011 20:31:21 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2011-04-23/1753#comment-42887 Looks like Matt posted an update this morning over at Lightroomkiller Tips: http://lightroomkillertips.com/2011/layers-in-sorry-with-lightroom-follow-up/ <span class='jfriedl'>Wow, what a disingenuous "apology". The backlash was not over a grammatical mistake, but over the huge "NOT POSSIBLE BEFORE BUT NOW IT IS!!!!!" fanfare that Scott brewed up for the announcement. It's that fanfare, combined with the misleading "IN Lightroom", that people are angry about, because it's not true. I can't believe someone as expert as Scotty Kelby could have crafted this misleading fanfare in error. Again, my complaint is not about the software, which may well be just dandy for some people, but about the misleading message that Scott Kelby crafted. Reading the followup that Matt wrote makes me ask "Wow, just <i>how stupid</i> do you think we are?" It seems designed to weed out those who don't adhere to blind faith. —Jeffrey</span> Looks like Matt posted an update this morning over at Lightroomkiller Tips:
http://lightroomkillertips.com/2011/layers-in-sorry-with-lightroom-follow-up/

Wow, what a disingenuous “apology”. The backlash was not over a grammatical mistake, but over the huge “NOT POSSIBLE BEFORE BUT NOW IT IS!!!!!” fanfare that Scott brewed up for the announcement. It’s that fanfare, combined with the misleading “IN Lightroom”, that people are angry about, because it’s not true. I can’t believe someone as expert as Scotty Kelby could have crafted this misleading fanfare in error. Again, my complaint is not about the software, which may well be just dandy for some people, but about the misleading message that Scott Kelby crafted. Reading the followup that Matt wrote makes me ask “Wow, just how stupid do you think we are?” It seems designed to weed out those who don’t adhere to blind faith. —Jeffrey

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