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	<title>Comments on: Recovering Photos from a Corrupt Memory Card with PhotoRec</title>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2008-12-03/1016#comment-39149</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I am a PC user and although I have looked at the programs website, I still don&#039;t understand how you do this if your card isn&#039;t recognized by your computer or camera, as you said yours wasn&#039;t. My card died while takig pix at my sisters high school graduation, so I can&#039;t just take them again. I got an error in the middle of graduation so put in another card and was going to deal with it later. It&#039;s now been a few days of searching high and low with no results. I stumbled across your blog and it seems promising, but my card is not showing up in my USB reader nor the built in reader. I am desparate - these are irreplaceable. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!!

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;You should probably send a note to the PhotoRec guy, but in my case the card was recognized by my system... I it was just corrupt, so I couldn&#039;t access it further (via the normal methods).  There are plenty of things you can try (such as working out a deal to send the card to someone with more experience), but if you&#039;ve completely run out of options, you could simply do a QUICK format in the computer, then mount it on your system, then run PhotoRec or the like. A QUICK format does not touch most of the data on the card, only the table of contents (so to speak).  You might also look (first) into buying a new card that comes with photo-recovery software. Some of the upper-end cards used to. Good luck! &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I am a PC user and although I have looked at the programs website, I still don&#8217;t understand how you do this if your card isn&#8217;t recognized by your computer or camera, as you said yours wasn&#8217;t. My card died while takig pix at my sisters high school graduation, so I can&#8217;t just take them again. I got an error in the middle of graduation so put in another card and was going to deal with it later. It&#8217;s now been a few days of searching high and low with no results. I stumbled across your blog and it seems promising, but my card is not showing up in my USB reader nor the built in reader. I am desparate &#8211; these are irreplaceable. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!!</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>You should probably send a note to the PhotoRec guy, but in my case the card was recognized by my system&#8230; I it was just corrupt, so I couldn&#8217;t access it further (via the normal methods).  There are plenty of things you can try (such as working out a deal to send the card to someone with more experience), but if you&#8217;ve completely run out of options, you could simply do a QUICK format in the computer, then mount it on your system, then run PhotoRec or the like. A QUICK format does not touch most of the data on the card, only the table of contents (so to speak).  You might also look (first) into buying a new card that comes with photo-recovery software. Some of the upper-end cards used to. Good luck! &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: Critter</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2008-12-03/1016#comment-35295</link>
		<dc:creator>Critter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 00:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this worked like an absolute charm. cheers mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this worked like an absolute charm. cheers mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2008-12-03/1016#comment-33007</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking of trying Photorec, as I accidently deleted and trashed my photos on my laptop after dragging to my external harddrvie. And yes, they deleted and trashed from my ext. harddrive as well.  What are the chances of me recovering what I lost?
This software doesnt look to easy to do. Looks like its DOS.  I lost probably 1,000 pics.  Needless to say, I was not happy.
Appreciate your input.  I have been still using my laptop, not knowing it would overwrite things.  
Thank-you, Linda

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;It&#039;s not &quot;DOS&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;command line&quot;, which perhaps feels the same, but in any case, it works very well if you can figure it out. The PhotoRec site has links to step-by-step instructions and such. Well worth giving it a try. &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking of trying Photorec, as I accidently deleted and trashed my photos on my laptop after dragging to my external harddrvie. And yes, they deleted and trashed from my ext. harddrive as well.  What are the chances of me recovering what I lost?<br />
This software doesnt look to easy to do. Looks like its DOS.  I lost probably 1,000 pics.  Needless to say, I was not happy.<br />
Appreciate your input.  I have been still using my laptop, not knowing it would overwrite things.<br />
Thank-you, Linda</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>It&#8217;s not &#8220;DOS&#8221;, it&#8217;s &#8220;command line&#8221;, which perhaps feels the same, but in any case, it works very well if you can figure it out. The PhotoRec site has links to step-by-step instructions and such. Well worth giving it a try. &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2008-12-03/1016#comment-30464</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zero filling a &quot;flash&quot; type device really doesn&#039;t do much but shorten the lifespan of every block of the device by one write which is why generally, the cameras only overwrite the allocation table on the disk.  Add to that fact that some less intelligent flash drivers are continually updating the allocation table with every write to the device and you could potentially be shortening the lifespan of the device by a great deal.  It&#039;s important to note here that flash devices are usually &quot;erased&quot; in blocks.  When erased, the whole block is set to 1.  For this reason, the raw data on a erased flash device will read 0xFFFFFFFF.

More often than not, the block on the device that holds the allocation table is the block(s) to go bad as it&#039;s constantly written and re-written.  Especially since the whole block(s) that hold the table must be read, erased and then completely re-written.  Therefore, good flash drivers will make all the changes they need to the data section of the disk, then re-write the allocation table once.  This is why pulling a card out of the Windows machine when it&#039;s not &quot;ejected&quot; can have problems.  The data has been written, but the allocation table hasn&#039;t been updated completely.  To be fair, the Mac does this too but they at least warn you about it.

At the end of the day, most flash devices have a &gt;100,000 write count lifespan per block, so unless you plan to use the device for years, you&#039;re probably never going to have a problem.

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;You&#039;re comments on card life are helpful, but you&#039;re missing the point of zero-filling: it&#039;s truly erasing whatever data might have been on the card. Out of curiosity, I ran photorec on all my cards, and found images well over a year old (on a card that sees 20,000 images a year).  I zerofilled them all just to feel tidy, but in my case it was probably a waste of time and resources, but if you ever take &quot;sensitive&quot; pictures and want them truly removed from the card, you&#039;d do well to zerofill the card, or perhaps &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.willitblend.com/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blend it&lt;/a&gt;. &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zero filling a &#8220;flash&#8221; type device really doesn&#8217;t do much but shorten the lifespan of every block of the device by one write which is why generally, the cameras only overwrite the allocation table on the disk.  Add to that fact that some less intelligent flash drivers are continually updating the allocation table with every write to the device and you could potentially be shortening the lifespan of the device by a great deal.  It&#8217;s important to note here that flash devices are usually &#8220;erased&#8221; in blocks.  When erased, the whole block is set to 1.  For this reason, the raw data on a erased flash device will read 0xFFFFFFFF.</p>
<p>More often than not, the block on the device that holds the allocation table is the block(s) to go bad as it&#8217;s constantly written and re-written.  Especially since the whole block(s) that hold the table must be read, erased and then completely re-written.  Therefore, good flash drivers will make all the changes they need to the data section of the disk, then re-write the allocation table once.  This is why pulling a card out of the Windows machine when it&#8217;s not &#8220;ejected&#8221; can have problems.  The data has been written, but the allocation table hasn&#8217;t been updated completely.  To be fair, the Mac does this too but they at least warn you about it.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, most flash devices have a &gt;100,000 write count lifespan per block, so unless you plan to use the device for years, you&#8217;re probably never going to have a problem.</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>You&#8217;re comments on card life are helpful, but you&#8217;re missing the point of zero-filling: it&#8217;s truly erasing whatever data might have been on the card. Out of curiosity, I ran photorec on all my cards, and found images well over a year old (on a card that sees 20,000 images a year).  I zerofilled them all just to feel tidy, but in my case it was probably a waste of time and resources, but if you ever take &#8220;sensitive&#8221; pictures and want them truly removed from the card, you&#8217;d do well to zerofill the card, or perhaps <a href='http://www.willitblend.com/' rel="nofollow">blend it</a>. &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: Thorf</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2008-12-03/1016#comment-29659</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently bought five Transcend 8MB SD cards, and one of them conked out on me after taking four pictures.  I&#039;m happy it did it so soon, rather than waiting until I had something important on it.  I&#039;ve been so busy that I have yet to get in touch with Transcend about having it replaced.

Anyway, I have to say there are problems with how Windows handles ejecting.  My computer has a built in card reader, and if I use the eject command with anything plugged into it the whole thing is ejected, forcing me to reboot if I want to use it again.  Obviously this is no use at all, because I often have more than one card to check.

But I have to agree with Unbound about the memory card.  Regardless of how or why it went wrong, trust in that particular card has taken a hit.  For me, that is unacceptable, and I wouldn&#039;t want to take pictures using that card, even if I still mostly trusted it.  It comes down to this: cards are cheap, and easily replaced; pictures are often priceless, and irreplaceable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought five Transcend 8MB SD cards, and one of them conked out on me after taking four pictures.  I&#8217;m happy it did it so soon, rather than waiting until I had something important on it.  I&#8217;ve been so busy that I have yet to get in touch with Transcend about having it replaced.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have to say there are problems with how Windows handles ejecting.  My computer has a built in card reader, and if I use the eject command with anything plugged into it the whole thing is ejected, forcing me to reboot if I want to use it again.  Obviously this is no use at all, because I often have more than one card to check.</p>
<p>But I have to agree with Unbound about the memory card.  Regardless of how or why it went wrong, trust in that particular card has taken a hit.  For me, that is unacceptable, and I wouldn&#8217;t want to take pictures using that card, even if I still mostly trusted it.  It comes down to this: cards are cheap, and easily replaced; pictures are often priceless, and irreplaceable.</p>
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		<title>By: Unbound</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2008-12-03/1016#comment-29554</link>
		<dc:creator>Unbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cards are cheap. Trash the one that gave your trouble... it is NOT as good as new. Something caused it to fail, and since you didn&#039;t see the camera do anything suspicious, you have no idea what caused the problem. It&#039;s like when a removable hard drive acts up... unless you can trace the problem to something you did (like the utterly retarded &quot;must eject before unplugging&quot; requirement on Macs because they don&#039;t realize a device is removable in the first place), trust in that device becomes very limited. You can probably get a replacement card from the manufacturer just for the price of postage... but don&#039;t trust that card anymore.

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;I think Windows did it. We&#039;ll see. By the way, &quot;removable&quot; doesn&#039;t necessarily mean &quot;can yank out at any time without ill effects&quot;. Windows takes a tact that lowers efficiency but reduces the window for corruption if the media is disconnected while in use. OSX takes the position that you&#039;re smart enough to know when you&#039;re going to remove it, and so reduces the chance for corruption to zero if you can follow the simple &quot;eject before disconnect&quot; instructions, and as a byproduct, write efficiency is greatly enhanced. With Windows, too, you&#039;re &lt;i&gt;supposed&lt;/i&gt; to tell it that you&#039;re about ready to disconnect the media, but few people do. If you don&#039;t, there&#039;s a chance of corruption, but Windows won&#039;t tell you or warn you or encourage safe behavior. OSX does. That seems prudent, not retarded, to me. &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cards are cheap. Trash the one that gave your trouble&#8230; it is NOT as good as new. Something caused it to fail, and since you didn&#8217;t see the camera do anything suspicious, you have no idea what caused the problem. It&#8217;s like when a removable hard drive acts up&#8230; unless you can trace the problem to something you did (like the utterly retarded &#8220;must eject before unplugging&#8221; requirement on Macs because they don&#8217;t realize a device is removable in the first place), trust in that device becomes very limited. You can probably get a replacement card from the manufacturer just for the price of postage&#8230; but don&#8217;t trust that card anymore.</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>I think Windows did it. We&#8217;ll see. By the way, &#8220;removable&#8221; doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean &#8220;can yank out at any time without ill effects&#8221;. Windows takes a tact that lowers efficiency but reduces the window for corruption if the media is disconnected while in use. OSX takes the position that you&#8217;re smart enough to know when you&#8217;re going to remove it, and so reduces the chance for corruption to zero if you can follow the simple &#8220;eject before disconnect&#8221; instructions, and as a byproduct, write efficiency is greatly enhanced. With Windows, too, you&#8217;re <i>supposed</i> to tell it that you&#8217;re about ready to disconnect the media, but few people do. If you don&#8217;t, there&#8217;s a chance of corruption, but Windows won&#8217;t tell you or warn you or encourage safe behavior. OSX does. That seems prudent, not retarded, to me. &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mullins Photography</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2008-12-03/1016#comment-29531</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mullins Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used PhotoRec in the past and its a good bit of kit.  I wonder with cards getting bigger and bigger how many more images could be lost when one fails.  

Kevin

&lt;span class=&#039;jfriedl&#039;&gt;Although cards are getting bigger, the answer to how many can be lost remains the same: &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt;  &#8212;Jeffrey&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used PhotoRec in the past and its a good bit of kit.  I wonder with cards getting bigger and bigger how many more images could be lost when one fails.  </p>
<p>Kevin</p>
<p><span class='jfriedl'>Although cards are getting bigger, the answer to how many can be lost remains the same: <i>all</i>  &mdash;Jeffrey</span></p>
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