Comments on: Nikon D3 Shutter Release in Super Slow Motion http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925 Not a photo blog. A personal blog with photos. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:03:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alan Catlin http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-44720 Alan Catlin Sun, 04 Dec 2011 01:28:32 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-44720 As mentioned here http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-34610 by Boyd (forgive me, I'm rusty on my HTML tags), the labeling of the shutters is a bit incongruous. The curtain you (at first) call the "front shutter" which is physically the rear curtain, drops first, and returns first. Makes sense to me. Sort of. Aside from the whole physically-being-in-rear thing. Still, it's the "front curtain" by conventional standards, with respect to the timing of its movement, and the names used for flash sync. That's fine, and makes perfect sense. The only problem is that you switch the naming around between when it drops, and when it returns. The same applies to the one you at first call the "rear shutter," which is physically in front. When the shutters are opening, you use the names that refer to the order in which they open, but when they close, you use the names that refer to their physical position. Sorry, I'm just being picky... I dug this out of my bookmarks from a year or two ago, so I could recommend this to one of my photography instructors, to help him explain shutters and SLRs to future classes, particularly since the front and rear curtain concepts really confused my classmates, and consistently confuses everyone else I know, but I don't want to confuse people even more with inconsistencies. If only Nikon had just made things less confusing by having the curtain that moves at the "front end" of the exposure be physically "in front," and vise-versa. Then again, who's to say it isn't already physically "in front," and this naming system was meant for people looking at it from a side of the shutter that only the designers and camera techs get to see anymore? I miss the days of film, where you could really see how things worked. Cameras like the F6 are just too expensive anymore! As mentioned here
http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-34610
by Boyd (forgive me, I’m rusty on my HTML tags), the labeling of the shutters is a bit incongruous. The curtain you (at first) call the “front shutter” which is physically the rear curtain, drops first, and returns first. Makes sense to me. Sort of. Aside from the whole physically-being-in-rear thing. Still, it’s the “front curtain” by conventional standards, with respect to the timing of its movement, and the names used for flash sync. That’s fine, and makes perfect sense. The only problem is that you switch the naming around between when it drops, and when it returns. The same applies to the one you at first call the “rear shutter,” which is physically in front.
When the shutters are opening, you use the names that refer to the order in which they open, but when they close, you use the names that refer to their physical position.

Sorry, I’m just being picky… I dug this out of my bookmarks from a year or two ago, so I could recommend this to one of my photography instructors, to help him explain shutters and SLRs to future classes, particularly since the front and rear curtain concepts really confused my classmates, and consistently confuses everyone else I know, but I don’t want to confuse people even more with inconsistencies.

If only Nikon had just made things less confusing by having the curtain that moves at the “front end” of the exposure be physically “in front,” and vise-versa. Then again, who’s to say it isn’t already physically “in front,” and this naming system was meant for people looking at it from a side of the shutter that only the designers and camera techs get to see anymore? I miss the days of film, where you could really see how things worked. Cameras like the F6 are just too expensive anymore!

]]> By: Nick http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-42518 Nick Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:04:14 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-42518 Hello Jeffrey, How can I download Marianne's and your shutter animation? I've asked Marianne and have her permission to use it in my workshops. I have no excess for internet at my workshop location so I can't show it using your site. Greetings Nick Zweers <span class='jfriedl'>My animation is done in the browser... it's not a video. Just view the animation in the browser, then don't close the browser before class. It'll be in your cache, so you can continue to interact without Internet access. —Jeffrey</span> Hello Jeffrey,

How can I download Marianne’s and your shutter animation? I’ve asked Marianne and have her permission to use it in my workshops. I have no excess for internet at my workshop location so I can’t show it using your site.

Greetings Nick Zweers

My animation is done in the browser… it’s not a video. Just view the animation in the browser, then don’t close the browser before class. It’ll be in your cache, so you can continue to interact without Internet access. —Jeffrey

]]> By: kyle http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-41568 kyle Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:39:24 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-41568 I love these super slow motion videos from Japan http://www.japansugoi.com/wordpress/the-world-of-super-slow-motion-camera/ I love these super slow motion videos from Japan
http://www.japansugoi.com/wordpress/the-world-of-super-slow-motion-camera/

]]> By: P^2 - Paul http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-41222 P^2 - Paul Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:04:41 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-41222 Followed here from our LSM lens perspective discussion on Flickr, via these frames hosted on your account there. It turns out I linked to this page some time ago from a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/imager/3167328395/" rel="nofollow">similar effort of mine. </a> Your and Marianne's presentation is much nicer though! Followed here from our LSM lens perspective discussion on Flickr, via these frames hosted on your account there. It turns out I linked to this page some time ago from a similar effort of mine. Your and Marianne’s presentation is much nicer though!

]]> By: F. Louagie http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-40061 F. Louagie Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:46:21 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-40061 Wonderful! Love your creativity. Wonderful! Love your creativity.

]]> By: David Hardwick http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-38235 David Hardwick Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:11:24 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-38235 How complicated is that. It should last aprox. 250K shots. It is amazing how delicate it all looks. How complicated is that. It should last aprox. 250K shots. It is amazing how delicate it all looks.

]]> By: A. Paschal http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-35091 A. Paschal Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:24:05 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-35091 It is amazing seeing the action of what many had been wondering how it works 'Camera Shutter' with 3D. with the above breake down one need not ask much ambiguious question of how a clear Photograph come to be. My curiosity about Digital Cameras are gradually taking shape. I like what I saw. please Keep up the good work. I am impressed. Well I am Grphic Designer, from Nigeria. I can not do without a digital Cameras in my profession. I am relief being elittened. A. Paschal Nigeria It is amazing seeing the action of what many had been wondering how it works ‘Camera Shutter’ with 3D. with the above breake down one need not ask much ambiguious question of how a clear Photograph come to be.

My curiosity about Digital Cameras are gradually taking shape. I like what I saw.
please Keep up the good work. I am impressed.

Well I am Grphic Designer, from Nigeria.
I can not do without a digital Cameras in my profession. I am relief being elittened.

A. Paschal
Nigeria

]]> By: William Rackley http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-34619 William Rackley Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:11:29 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-34619 Incredible! Thank you so much for posting this. Incredible! Thank you so much for posting this.

]]> By: adolfo.trinca http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-34616 adolfo.trinca Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:37:02 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-34616 Great job! Great job!

]]> By: Boyd http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-34610 Boyd Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:44:53 +0000 http://regex.info/blog/2008-09-04/925#comment-34610 Sorry for the late comment, but I was directed here today from a post at <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DigitalPhotographySchool/~3/Szaz-AMrr0E/photography-1016-shutter" rel="nofollow">DPS</a>. Great visual explanation of what happens when we press that little button! One minor point I thought I'd bring to your attention, though. Before the exposure and continuing through its duration, you refer to the first shutter we see as the "front shutter" and the second one as the "rear shutter." When this second shutter returns, you switch and call it the "front shutter." I think you got it right at the end. The shutter that drops out of the way at the beginning of the exposure is actually the rear shutter, which is why we don't see it return after the exposure. The second shutter is actually in front, hiding the other shutter until it returns at the end. Not that it makes a whole heckuva lot of difference, but being the anal retentive type, I thought I'd point that out to you. Again, great job, and thanks! Sorry for the late comment, but I was directed here today from a post at DPS. Great visual explanation of what happens when we press that little button!

One minor point I thought I’d bring to your attention, though. Before the exposure and continuing through its duration, you refer to the first shutter we see as the “front shutter” and the second one as the “rear shutter.” When this second shutter returns, you switch and call it the “front shutter.”

I think you got it right at the end. The shutter that drops out of the way at the beginning of the exposure is actually the rear shutter, which is why we don’t see it return after the exposure. The second shutter is actually in front, hiding the other shutter until it returns at the end.

Not that it makes a whole heckuva lot of difference, but being the anal retentive type, I thought I’d point that out to you.

Again, great job, and thanks!

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