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	<title>Comments on: Yahoo! Photos Really Sucks</title>
	<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306</link>
	<description>Not a photo blog, but sometimes I play one on TV</description>
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		<title>by: Jeffrey Friedl</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-3759</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ron, for prints, consider &lt;a href='http://www.adoramapix.com/' rel="nofollow"&gt;Adorama&lt;/a&gt;. I ordered a bunch of &lt;a href='http://regex.info/blog/2006-07-15/211' rel="nofollow"&gt;wedding photos for my brother&lt;/a&gt;, and then some huge reprints (all on the high-quality &lt;a href='http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/papers/endura/main.jhtml?id=0.2.22.14.24.24.7&#038;lc=en' rel="nofollow"&gt;Endura Supra Luster&lt;/a&gt; paper). The image upload and order flow is &lt;i&gt;remarkably&lt;/i&gt; smooth and clueful, almost to a shocking degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, for prints, consider <a href='http://www.adoramapix.com/' rel="nofollow">Adorama</a>. I ordered a bunch of <a href='http://regex.info/blog/2006-07-15/211' rel="nofollow">wedding photos for my brother</a>, and then some huge reprints (all on the high-quality <a href='http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/papers/endura/main.jhtml?id=0.2.22.14.24.24.7&#038;lc=en' rel="nofollow">Endura Supra Luster</a> paper). The image upload and order flow is <i>remarkably</i> smooth and clueful, almost to a shocking degree.
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		<title>by: Ron Thomski</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-3758</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-3758</guid>
					<description>Also, one last thing.  I don't know about you, but the new Yahoo photos takes all my photos out of order when I upload (I like the photos in chrono order, but Yahoo basically shuffles the deck and the are all out of order). So I manually put them in order online and then order prints, and - hold on to your seat - they always arrive from the lab all out of order! This NEVER happened with the old Yahoo Photos.  This compnay is run my idiots.  Glad I sold the loser stock at $35.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, one last thing.  I don&#8217;t know about you, but the new Yahoo photos takes all my photos out of order when I upload (I like the photos in chrono order, but Yahoo basically shuffles the deck and the are all out of order). So I manually put them in order online and then order prints, and - hold on to your seat - they always arrive from the lab all out of order! This NEVER happened with the old Yahoo Photos.  This compnay is run my idiots.  Glad I sold the loser stock at $35.
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		<title>by: Ron Thomski</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-3757</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-3757</guid>
					<description>OMG - you are so on target!  The new Yahoo photos sucks big time.  The loading issue, as you described, is pure BS and a waste of time.  Also, this tray bit, the "view all my photos" default (pure BS - do you really want to wait for 4000 photos to load?? I don't but I have to when this assinine feature is activated).  I think that Yahoo reconfigured the photos page to squeeze in advertising which the old Yahoo album system (which was way easier to use and superior) did not have.  I can't believe many of the stupid blunders Yahoo has made of late.  With products like Yahoo Answers which caters to people with IQ's below 70, Yahoo is begging to be obsolete in a decade or less.  I'm just waiting for them to molest the calendar feature and then it's sianara to Yahoo.  What idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG - you are so on target!  The new Yahoo photos sucks big time.  The loading issue, as you described, is pure BS and a waste of time.  Also, this tray bit, the &#8220;view all my photos&#8221; default (pure BS - do you really want to wait for 4000 photos to load?? I don&#8217;t but I have to when this assinine feature is activated).  I think that Yahoo reconfigured the photos page to squeeze in advertising which the old Yahoo album system (which was way easier to use and superior) did not have.  I can&#8217;t believe many of the stupid blunders Yahoo has made of late.  With products like Yahoo Answers which caters to people with IQ&#8217;s below 70, Yahoo is begging to be obsolete in a decade or less.  I&#8217;m just waiting for them to molest the calendar feature and then it&#8217;s sianara to Yahoo.  What idiots.
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		<title>by: Andrew S</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2895</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2895</guid>
					<description>I just scanned through about 1000 party photos in the new yahoo photos (to find pictures of me and folks that I know). It was much faster than doing the same scan in the old y! photos for previous years' party photos. So, it's faster at this, at least.

The interface is awful - I couldn't really figure out how to do anything with it, though i eventually figured out the double click bit. I have no idea what the "tray" where you can drag images is for (i would have liked to be able to store images there, and download them all at once). It really saddens me when people at large companies like this design sites that are clearly unusable (same for Y! TV).

The weird thing is that some people like these sort of interfaces.

Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just scanned through about 1000 party photos in the new yahoo photos (to find pictures of me and folks that I know). It was much faster than doing the same scan in the old y! photos for previous years&#8217; party photos. So, it&#8217;s faster at this, at least.</p>
<p>The interface is awful - I couldn&#8217;t really figure out how to do anything with it, though i eventually figured out the double click bit. I have no idea what the &#8220;tray&#8221; where you can drag images is for (i would have liked to be able to store images there, and download them all at once). It really saddens me when people at large companies like this design sites that are clearly unusable (same for Y! TV).</p>
<p>The weird thing is that some people like these sort of interfaces.</p>
<p>Sigh.
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		<title>by: Jeffrey Friedl</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2882</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2882</guid>
					<description>To Cal: Wow, you're right! Flickr did strip profiles when I checked perhaps two months ago, but looking back now, profiles are preserved on all thumbnails.  That's excellent. Well, the next step would be to auto-convert all resizes to sRGB if it's not already there, and add an sRGB profile. (See this article on &lt;a href='http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/color-spaces-page1/' rel="nofollow"&gt;digital image color spaces&lt;/a&gt;). Of course, you wouldn't auto-convert the original, but if it's not sRGB or doesn't have a profile, perhaps note that somehow so that the user knows that they might get different colors when viewing it.

To Joseph: when Y! bought Flickr, they had something like 11 million users (so I seem to remember reading somewhere). Just dumping them over to Flickr would have clearly been a mistake, but geez, I didn't think they'd actively work on making Y! Photos suck. Maybe they're trying to drive people away from Y! Photos, hoping that they'll end up at Flickr? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Cal: Wow, you&#8217;re right! Flickr did strip profiles when I checked perhaps two months ago, but looking back now, profiles are preserved on all thumbnails.  That&#8217;s excellent. Well, the next step would be to auto-convert all resizes to sRGB if it&#8217;s not already there, and add an sRGB profile. (See this article on <a href='http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/color-spaces-page1/' rel="nofollow">digital image color spaces</a>). Of course, you wouldn&#8217;t auto-convert the original, but if it&#8217;s not sRGB or doesn&#8217;t have a profile, perhaps note that somehow so that the user knows that they might get different colors when viewing it.</p>
<p>To Joseph: when Y! bought Flickr, they had something like 11 million users (so I seem to remember reading somewhere). Just dumping them over to Flickr would have clearly been a mistake, but geez, I didn&#8217;t think they&#8217;d actively work on making Y! Photos suck. Maybe they&#8217;re trying to drive people away from Y! Photos, hoping that they&#8217;ll end up at Flickr? <img src='http://regex.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Joseph Hunkins</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2881</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2881</guid>
					<description>Umm - Is there even a logical reason for the *existence* of Yahoo photos as a separate entity from the brilliant and popular Flickr, which everybody (including many Google people) use happily?     It's one of the areas where Yahoo shines above Google, but I can't help but wonder if the plan is to fold Flickr into Yahoo photos which would be terrible.

I hope Yahoo does not make the same mistake it has made working to rebrand things as "Yahoo" when they should be following the "if it's not broke do not fix it" rule and folding Yahoo photos into Flickr, which would help users with a better service and help Yahoo by consolidating redundant services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm - Is there even a logical reason for the *existence* of Yahoo photos as a separate entity from the brilliant and popular Flickr, which everybody (including many Google people) use happily?     It&#8217;s one of the areas where Yahoo shines above Google, but I can&#8217;t help but wonder if the plan is to fold Flickr into Yahoo photos which would be terrible.</p>
<p>I hope Yahoo does not make the same mistake it has made working to rebrand things as &#8220;Yahoo&#8221; when they should be following the &#8220;if it&#8217;s not broke do not fix it&#8221; rule and folding Yahoo photos into Flickr, which would help users with a better service and help Yahoo by consolidating redundant services.
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		<title>by: Cal</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2880</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2880</guid>
					<description>(I work for flickr)

I'm pretty sure Flickr doesn't strip color profiles from thumbnails, for exactly this reason. If it's borked, it's a regression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I work for flickr)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Flickr doesn&#8217;t strip color profiles from thumbnails, for exactly this reason. If it&#8217;s borked, it&#8217;s a regression.
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		<title>by: Jeremy Zawodny</title>
		<link>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2876</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://regex.info/blog/2006-12-10/306#comment-2876</guid>
					<description>FWIW, #3 was the first thing that I complained about when asked to preview the new Photos way back when.  While I understood their rationale, I still believe they're completely wrong about it.

I'm a bit surprised bythe 6 second delay.  I'd try to verify it myself, but I know only one person who uses Y! Photos and I've already seen her pictures.

Hmm.

Oh, I do like how you manage to rub in the 100mbit fiber. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, #3 was the first thing that I complained about when asked to preview the new Photos way back when.  While I understood their rationale, I still believe they&#8217;re completely wrong about it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised bythe 6 second delay.  I&#8217;d try to verify it myself, but I know only one person who uses Y! Photos and I&#8217;ve already seen her pictures.</p>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p>Oh, I do like how you manage to rub in the 100mbit fiber. <img src='http://regex.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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